Sunday, March 23, 2014

Karna didnt go with the kauravas to capture Drupada


 I have been reading the kmg version where its said that the kauravas went first to capture drupada as gurudakshina to drona.And then karna's name was added.Why will karna go with the kauravas as he is not a disciple of drona.Some manupulator has added karna here.And then as main kauravas including karna attacked drupada,he counterattacks and then all of them flee from the scene.Then there is no mention of karna.!It doesnt not mention karna shooting any arrows or any divyastras against drupada.And when after the kauravas were attacked by drupada,their names were mentioned,but karna is ingored.So its clear that karna didnt go with the kauravas,and his name is included to downgrade him,so that Arjuna does something that karna couldnt do.To say that karna lost to drupada is a blatant lie,and shows the conspiracy of some people to make him look inferior to Arjuna.karna defeated drupada in his digvijay later alone with his army.And karna defeated Jarasandha alone.The jarasandha from whom krishna ran away from mathura to dwaraka unable to face him in battle.The jarasandha whom krishna,bhima,arjuna had to go in disguise and ask for a wresting duel with bhima.Karna can easily defeat drupada.And kmg version also has a verse saying drona taught karna which is false.Drona's  gurukul is only for kshatriya prices.Its not even for ordianry kshatriyas.So why will drona teach karna who is not even a kshatriya at that time.And one verse says Karna became jealous of Arjuna in gurukul.This is again false.Seems some conspiritor wants to create an image of karna as someone who is jealous of Arjuna.

 Bhima defeating karna in for the Rajasuya yaga is false.Anga Kingdom is part of hastinapura,and Bhima wont fight with Karna.The sanskrit verses were translated wrongly.The verses say karnam means listen in sanskrit.And Another verse could have the term karanam which means because or by the act of.

The sanskrit verse in draupadi swayamvara that karna lifted the bow and drapuadi stopped him saying she doesnt want a suta as her lord is removed in kmg sanskrit version.The hindu rightwingers might have asked to remove them.And one verse is wrongly stated.

The sankrit verse meaning is

major kings like karna,shalya,who are famous,strong,and have knowledge in dhanurveda did not do
then how come it is possible for this brahmin who is not skilled in weapons.inclined to weakness,could string the bow?



yat karṇa śalya pramukhaiḥ pārthivair lokaviśrutaiḥ
      nānṛtaṃ balavadbhir hi dhanurvedā parāyaṇaiḥ

Now there is a word missing here.The sentence is incomplete.
It is 'the task'

It is not yat karna but yatkarin or yatkaryam which measn the task.

So it is
yat karin(yatkaryam) śalya pramukhaiḥ pārthivair lokaviśrutaiḥ
      nākritam balavadbhir hi dhanurvedā parāyaṇaiḥ


So the sentence means the task which major kings like  shalya,who are famous,strong,and have knowledge in dhanurveda was not done,then how is it possible for this brahmin who is not skilled in weapons.inclined to weakness, to string the bow?

tat kathaṃ tv akṛtāstreṇa prāṇato durbalīyasā
      baṭu mātreṇa śakyaṃ hi sajyaṃ kartuṃ dhanur dvijāḥ

It is not nanritam,It is nakritam.this means was not done.Sanskrit verse should be changed here.Karna's name is not there here.





































19 comments:

  1. Karna was a student of Drona,its written at many places like in Adi Parva,Vana Parva and Santi Parva.He was rejected for Brahmastra due to his wickedness.Parshuram unaware of Karna's wicked nature accepted him.

    In Draupadi Swayamwar,Karna had failed to String the bow.You are changing the sloka,it contains Karna's and Salya's name in the list of failures.Get updated with epics,the one you are talking about is a 16th century interpolation found in the inferior versions of Mahabharat,not in any of the old versions.

    Bhima defeating Karna in Rajsuyi is also true,many times later when Bhima's achievements were described and the list of kings/states he vanquished,it also contains the state 'Anga' which is Karna's kingdom.

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    1. Bhim was defeated in mahabharata yudh by karana

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  2. There is only one slokaa in adi parva which says karna was jealous of Arjuna.There is no proof of this.If karna was taught by drona,then drona would have said it when karna first made his appearance in rangbhoomi.Bhima wouldnt attack anga as its part of hastinapur kingdom.Seems they are later additions.If bhima defeated karna duryodhana wouldnt have gone to war in the first place.I didnt change any sloka.The original wouldnt make sense.I dount if karna actually attempted to string the bow.Both the attempt and not able to string might be later additions.

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  3. The Asura vow of Karna was a result of his hatred and jealousy towards Arjun.Look from an unbiased point of view- What bad did Arjun do Karna? So why did karna vowed that he will not eat meat,not wash his feet and donate till he kills Arjun.Clearly shows his hatred and jealousy towards Arjuna.

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    1. 😂😂🤣 Tukle ki video dekhta hai kya

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  4. At 3-4 places in Mahabharat its written about Drona teaching weapons to Karna.Even Narad told this to Yudhisthir.Drona might have not recognised him in Rangshala.

    I don't agree with your theory about Anga being hastinapur's part so bhima won't have attacked anga.As I told,at two places its written about Bhima capturing Anga,and during Bhima's digvijay in Adi Parva also its written about Bhima defeating Karna,so this is enough proof to conclude that Bhima defeated Karna in Rajsuyi sacrifice.
    Other than that,Karna during his digvijay subjugated 'Gandhar' which should also be a subordinate of hastinapur due to Shakuni,so the same logic can apply to Anga also.

    Regarding Draupadi's swayamwar,your point can be correct,that Karna did not attempt to string the bow.There can be a possibility that Karna did not went or if he went,he did not participate.But Naham Vareyami Sutam is definitely an interpolation which cannot be found in older Mahabharat editions.

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    1. Moreover
      Have the pandav as attacked on hastinapur. No they didn't.
      By the same logic they didn't attack anga.

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    2. Please don't be idiot gandhar was a free state but anga was a star subordinate to hastinapur not free.

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  5. yes,that naham variya sutam might have been a later addition.I dint think draupadi rejected karna.If bhima defetaed karna why he couldnt kill him in the mahabharata war.This is without any basis.




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  6. during the time of mahabharat a son of a sarathi or any other caste who is not kshtria or brahmin are not allowed to hold weapons or to learn shastra vidya thats why karna was not the disciple of drona it was not possible and karna real identity was revealed just beforè war by god shri krishna the guru kul of drona was only for princes of hastinapur not even. for another kshtrias so karnà was not the disiple of drona

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  7. during the time of mahabharat a son of a sarathi or any other caste who is not kshtria or brahmin are not allowed to hold weapons or to learn shastra vidya thats why karna was not the disciple of drona it was not possible and karna real identity was revealed just beforè war by god shri krishna the guru kul of drona was only for princes of hastinapur not even. for another kshtrias so karnà was not the disiple of drona

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  8. during the time of mahabharat a son of a sarathi or any other caste who is not kshtria or brahmin are not allowed to hold weapons or to learn shastra vidya thats why karna was not the disciple of drona it was not possible and karna real identity was revealed just beforè war by god shri krishna the guru kul of drona was only for princes of hastinapur not even. for another kshtrias so karnà was not the disiple of drona

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  9. during the time of mahabharat a son of a sarathi or any other caste who is not kshtria or brahmin are not allowed to hold weapons or to learn shastra vidya thats why karna was not the disciple of drona it was not possible and karna real identity was revealed just beforè war by god shri krishna the guru kul of drona was only for princes of hastinapur not even. for another kshtrias so karnà was not the disiple of drona

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  10. there is no mention name of ang pardash durning bhima dig vijay and many kings name karna there is no mention king of anga and radha son

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    1. You are right bro.
      These idiots just want to degrade karna but they forget that eclipse can hide sun for a moment but can't vanquished it for good.

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    2. Karna the son of surya narayan and kunti with kavach and kundal and many other names he is lord parashuram shishya and he is presented vijay dhanush by lord parashuram for his all abilities after lord sriram he is the best archer in the world he is alone a great warrior no other warriors are superior to karna. He can defeat the whole world. Jai karna. Mrityunjay karna dhaanveer karna.

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  11. Aj kal Karn ko niccha dikhane kai liye myth failae ja rahe hai . Karn best hai or rahega

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  12. One thing more why karan says to kunti that always his five sons will remain alive either him or arjun

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  13. But karan is danveer he has donated his armour kawach and kundli to lord indra even sun lord has told not to do so

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