Sunday, April 27, 2014

Karna,the follower of many Dharma


 Karna is criticised for following contradictory dharmas.And that he is an oppurtunist.This is not true.He was always a a giver of daana,or charity right from childhood.Not from ghosha yatra,as said in mahabharta.
He always gave what people asked him,especially when he was giving arghya to surya in the morning.
Now coming to his boon to kunti,that he wont kill four pandavas,except Arjuna,is well within the friendship dharma of karna to duryodhana.Karna said that he will fight for duryodhana in the kurukshetra war.But he didnt say he will kill pandavas other than Arjuna.And his boon to kunti didnt contradict his friendhsip to duryodhana.When he defeated the pandava army including satyaki,drishtadyumna,bhima,imapanchala warriors and then defeated yudhishtira he said a few words to him and let him go.Duryodhana wanted to capture yudhishtira,not kill him.And when karna had the oppurtunity to capture him,he didnt.He knows that pandavas will lose the war,if he does that.For the release of yudhishtira,duryodhana will demand that pandavas stop the war,and give up their kingdom.karna knows this,and  to make dharmaraja win the war ,he let him go.He didnt go by duryodhana's wish at that time.he went by dharma.As for Arjuna,his survival isnt really needed for the establishment of dharma rajya,or for yudhishtira to win the war.Even if Arjuna is killed by karna,karna would have ensured that Bhima kill duryodhana,and he will be recogonised as kunti's son later.And karna didnt stop bhima from killing dushasana.He was just a few feet away from bhima,and with one arrow,he could have cut the head of bhima.But he allowed bhima to kill dushasana and fulfill his pran or oath for dragging draupadi to the dice hall.So this shows the dharmic nature of karna.When he was not aware that he was the elder pandavas,he accpeted anga kingdom,and kshatriya status given by duryodhana.karna is human,and this is the only way he could fight with other warriors and prove his valour.But once he knew who he was,his opininon has changed.He fought for duryodhana,but ensuredthe victory of the yudhishtira,pandavas.Arjuna doesnt really count as I have already said.It is krishna who favoured Arjuna.And the gita is a later addtion to the Mahabharata,which shows krishna as god,and his preferance to Arjuna.gita was written to counter buddhism,and its ideas, and to get people back to hindu dharma.So karna was made evil at that time.Many buddhist ideas are there in gita.
As I said earlier,he fought the war with Arjuna.He spared the four pandavas.He didnt capture yudhishtira.He followed his charity.And more importantly,he didnt break the rules of war.He always fought according to the rules.Even wth Abhimanyu he didnt fight with full energy.Karna said that he is staying in battlefield beasue he should not flee.But did he really mean that?No.He was indirectly praising his nephew.He cant prasie him directly because duryodhana is there.He broke the bow of Abhimanyu,because Abhimanyu was destroying kaurava army.He didn't shoot arrows against him.Others like Ashwatthama,kritavarma,shalya shot arrows.
Also,even drona was reluctant to kill him.But he had to defeat him,to protect duryodhana.
After karna's chariot wheel has stuck in the ground,Arjuna should have gone against duryodhana,and  then captured him.Then bhima would have fought with duryodhana,and killed him.That would have been best ending to the mahabharat war.Maybe karna was hoping for this,but krishna because of his selfish reasons asked Arjuna to kill Karna.
It is said that sugriva will always help god vishnu.And he is part of vishnu.He helped Rama with his army.
Now his younger brother,Karna in mahabharata helped god with the kaurava army,whom he is the commander.Though he is on enemy's side,he ensured victory of Dharma's,pandava's victory.Whether krishna is god or not,god is on the side of dharma isnt it.



























Wednesday, April 23, 2014

The best ending of mahabharata war


 The mahabharata war didnt get the best ending.Krishna with his conspiracy,made Arjuna kill karna by adharmaic means,and made Yudhishtira angry and also made kunti regret for not teeling pandavas about karna.When Karna chariot wheel was stuck in earth,Arjuna should have allowed Karna to go back.And attacked duryodhana.Only Ashwatthama was protecting duryodhana so Arjuna with satyaki,bhima could have easily captured duryodhana.Karna could not have done anything as he was without chariot.After capturing duryodhana,he shsould have been asked to fight a duel with Bhima.And if Bhima could not kill duryodhana,then bhima could have killed him by breaking his thighs.And then karna shsould have been revealed as eleder brother of pandavas.Then all would have been well.Pandavas would have been happy,and kunti would have been happy.And the upapandavas would not have been killed.But Krishna for his selfish reasons made Arjuna kill Karna.And ths made yudhishtira angry,and made kunti unhappy.


Tuesday, April 22, 2014

Simple Logic


 It is simple logic.Fo people who believe Rama,Krishna are divine or god incarnates.Even incarnations can  do wrong things.Vali is a better warrior than sugriva.He cant be defetaed when fighting from front.So Rama killed him from behind when vali was fighting with sugriva.So here incarnate was against the stronger warrior.Krishna asked Arjuna to kill Karna when his chariot wheel was stuck and he got down to lift it.So here the incarnate is against the stronger warrior siding against the warrior who is on dharma side as the believers say.So Karna is a better warrior than Arjuna.So the believers have to accept this.I dont understand why there is so much of debate on this.
I am not talking about the people who are logical here.









Monday, April 21, 2014

Arjuna's defeat by the Abhiras


 After the yadavas in dwaraka killed themselves in fighting among themselves and krishna's death,Arjuna was taking the wives of the yadavas to hastinpaura.While he was on his way,he was attacked by the Abhiras,a tribe opposed to the yadavas.They knew the yadavs had died,and they attacked the women who had precious belongings as well.But Arjuna coudnt so anything.With difficulty he lifted the gandiva,and shot arrows,but they fell short of them.He coukdnt invoke celestial weapons.He then fought them with hand to hand,but he could save krishna's eight wives,and some important yadava women.But The Abhiras,peasants who attacked took away some woman,and their belongings.This shows that Arjuna is not a great a warrior as he is projected to be.At that age,he could be in his seventies.He is not older than Bhishma  or Drona at the time of Mahabharata war.They have fought in the war well.But Arjuna's defeat by the Abhiras,peasants also show another thing about Arjuna's valour.He is not good in hand to hand combat.He is good when he has his gandiva.He basically learnt  dhanurvidya.And he didnt have to fight other weapons like mace,sword with others.Without the bow,even nakula,sahadeva are better warriors than him,But in this situation,hand to hand combat is needed.And at this age,he couldnt fight the thieves.
In the mahabharata war,he fought with those who were following rules of war.Like Karna,Bhishma.And he could kill them when chariot wheel is sunk in earth,or using shikhandi as a shield.But the Abhiras,peasants didnt follow any rules of war.So Arjuna got defeated by them.He was punished for killing karna unrighteously.And krishna who asked karna to be killed when his chariot is stuck,he also got killed like a  hunted animal.This is the result of his advice of Adharma yuddha and making pandavas kill their enemies,by unrighteous means.So he was punihsed for his karma.
So one shouldnt do Adharma,otherwise one will be punihsed for these things.














Sunday, April 20, 2014

Aswatthama's right words


 Ashwatthama's was angry after the death of Drona.He said these words.

I have now learnt how my sire has been slain by those low wretches after he laid aside his weapons, and how also has a sinful act been perpetrated by Yudhishthira disguised in the grab of virtue! 1 I have now heard of that unrighteous and exceedingly cruel act of Dharma's son. Indeed, to those engaged in battle, either of the two things must happen, viz., victory or defeat. Death in battle is always to be applauded. That death, in battle, of a person engaged in fight, which takes place under circumstances of righteousness, is not deserving of grief, as has been observed by the sages. Without doubt, my sire has gone to the region of heroes. He having met with such a death, I should not grieve for him. The humiliation, however, of a seizure of his locks, that he sustained in the very sight of all the troops, while he was righteously engaged in battle, is tearing the very core of my heart. Myself alive, my sire's locks were seized, why should sonless people then entertain a desire of offspring? 2 People perpetrate unrighteous acts or humiliate others, moved by lust or wrath or folly or hatred or levity. The cruel and wicked-souled son of Prishata hath perpetrated this exceedingly sinful act in total disregard of me Dhrishtadyumna, therefore, shall surely suffer the dreadful consequence of that act, as also the false-speeched son of Pandu, that has acted so wrongly. Today, the earth shall certainly drink the blood of that king Yudhishthira the just, who caused the preceptor, by an act of deceit to lay aside his weapons. I swear by truth, O Kauraveya, as also by my religious acts, that I shall never bear the burden of life if I fail to exterminate the Panchalas. By every means I contend with the Panchalas in dreadful strife. I shall certainly slay in battle Dhrishtadyumna, that perpetrator of unrighteous deeds. Mild or violent, let the means be what they will, I shall effect the destruction of all the Panchalas before peace becomes mine. O Kaurava!

So Ashwatthama killed drishtyadyumna ,and other brothers of draupadi on thenight of Duryodhana's death.He also killed Draupadi's five sons.He didnt want panchala descendents to live.Saputika parva was part of shalya parva.It was later made into a separate parva by later editors of Mahabharata.Its not a play or added later.The Hindu rightwingers want to believe that sauptika parva is added later becasue it negates the victory of the pandavas.And the pandava victory will be useless.Thethe truth is pandava victory is not useful.That is what makes mahabharata an epic.Mahabharata is not a happy ending story.It is these things that made mahabharata popular for  along time.
Ashwatthama was caught by pandavas as he agreed that he didnt know how to withdraw the Brahmashira astra.And Arjuna with this permission has withdrawn both the astras.Draupadi has to let Ashwatthamam go.Because by now she realised that revenge is not good.It took this much time for her to realise this.
And krishan curse to Ashwatthama is false.Ashwatthama certianly didn't live thousands of years.That is made up by some.He went away somewhere after this.



















Saturday, April 19, 2014

Hindu rightwingers opposition to Karna


 Hindu rightwingers are opposed to  karna.I am not talking about the knowledgable people or spiritually or religionally inclined people here.Its the rightwing fanatics who believe some facts without logic,and cocnsistently lie about the divinities of some people or defend the manupulations of the epics.They wont understand logic.Hindu rightwingers dont like Karna as he posed a challengge to the class system based on occupation of that era.Suta caste is a high caste,but some sutas became charioters who werent that rich.So they were considered inferior to royal born kshatriyas.The rightwingers want Arjuna who is born in a royal family to beocme the greatest archer,and bow wielder.Thats why they support the later additions to the mahabharata such as ghosha yatra.And much of virat war is manupulated anyway.
next is Karna fought on the kauravas side becasue of his friendship with duryodhana.And becasue duryodhana made him the Anga King,and gave him the kshatriya status.By the time he knew he was kunti's son,a lot of time has passed for him to go to the pandavas side.But he gave a word to kunti that he will spare the lives of pandavas escept Arjuna as he promised his friend duryodhana that he will fight with Arjuna.
And he spared the lives of all four pandavas.Bhima,Sahadeva in Drona parva, Yudhishtira,nakula in karna parva.Sparing sahadeva was not there in kmg version,but is clearly mentioned in south editions.So the four pandavas were alive because of him.Since Bhishma said he wont kill padavas,and drona wouldnt kill them anyway.So if he doenst kill them then the four pandavas are spared.
The rightwingers dont like this.How could the pandavas who are divine,and supported by krishna who is god,be alive becasue of karna who fought on the side of duryodhana.So they make up stories that Bhima wasnt defeated by karna,and they ignore sahadeva being spared.Infact they say that Bhima spared karna.They manupulate facts for their agenda.
Most importantly,Krishan asked Arjuna to kill karna when his chariot wheel is stuck,and he got down to lift it.So if karna is a good person,then it makes,krishna,Arjuna evil.So they will have to make karna evil,to make krishna.Arjuna divine.So they lie about a lot of things,that he is a war monger,that he the cause of duryodhana's evil and so on.These are baseless things.
karna didnt invite the pandavas to the dice game.He didnt bet their wealth,draupadi.He didnt ask dushasana to drag drauapadi to the dice hall.He didnt say anything later.But some say he is evil.
The rightwingers should realise that karna is a better warrior than Arjuna,and a better person than Arjuna.They should stop these manupulations.


















Thursday, April 17, 2014

The sudarshana chakra didnt exist


 The mahabharata mentions about sudarshana chakra of krishna,and how as he used on some occasions.
THe sudarshana chakra doesnt exist.Its a later addition to make make krishna god.The first instance is that of slaying shishupala where krishna uses sudarshana chakra.What happened was a battle between krishna and sishupala and after hours of fighting krishna managed to slay sishupala.Sishupala was not somebody who could be killed easily.There are some books written by some poets about the battle between krishna,sishupala.
Krishna,sishupala have enemity for a long time.Krishna's plans for yadava kingdoms were opposed by sishupala.Krishna adviced  the pandavas to conduct the Rajasuya Yaga,and subdue all kings,so it will eliminate his enemies.So that the yadavas will be safe and can prosper.He became the political advisor to the pandavas,and also adviced them on other matters.Sishupala didnt like this.So when the rajasuya yaga was started,he along with some kings had a plan to attack krishna and kill him.So he started abusing Krishna and challenged him to a fight.The other kings also supported him.Krishna,sishupala came outside and  mounted on a chariot and started fighting.Sishupala strikes krishna with many arrows,and so does krishna.
After some hours of fighting,krishna manages to slay sishupala.This battle is detailedly written by some poets in some books.Later on this was changed to Krishna killing sishupala with the sudarshana chakra.THis was done after Krishna was made god by pro pandava writers of mahabharata.
The second instance where krishna used the sudarshana chakra is when he attacked Bhishma in the mahabharata war,when Bhishma was causing widespread destruction,and Arjuna was not able to stop it.Although the mahabharata depicts that krishna used a chariot wheel instead of a chakra,but this is written in some other books.
The third time is when he uses the  sudarshan chakra to eclipse the sun,so that Jayadratha could come out and Arjuna could kill him.The original mahabharata says that krishna used maya instead of sudarshan chakra.
So its clear the the sudarshana chakra didnt exist,and it is later addition by people who waned to make krishna god.
















Monday, April 14, 2014

Karna,Shalya conversation


 Some hindu right wingers in their articles,Arjuna fans, criticised karna as being opposed to women's liberation as because of a argument he had with shalya when he was the charioteer of karna on the seventeenth day of mahabharata war.Karna was killed unrighteously that day as shalya didnt raise the chariot from the earth.
The kmg version says that shalya says karna doesnt know a man's duties and karna abused the women of madra kingdom to whom shalya is king.Madra kingdom today is in Afghanistan,beside gandhara kingdom.
The kmg version doesn't give full details of that conversation.Shalya first abused anga kingdom women,and Karna abused back at madra kingdom women.Karna wasnt opposed to women's liberation or was he regressive in anyway.He just mocked shalya back.Shalya was requested by yudhishtira and krishna to weaken karna's resolve when he becomes he charioteer of karna.And so shalya kept on praising Arjuna,Abusing karna,anga kingdom people to divert karna's attention.There is a term called shalya sarathya in sanskrit.That means if someone talks discouragingly negatively on anyone doing anything it is called shalya sarathya.It was a deliberate plan by krishna.Shaly showed his loyalty to pandavas by not lifting karna's chariot from the earth.So karna had to come down to lift it.And he also didnt fight that well on eighteenth day and was killed by yudhishtira,there by making pandavas win the war.
if some people dont realise what karna was saying and take these things as they are then they will get confused.Karna,Shaklya conservation is not a representation of karna's opinions.
Also some conspiritors,Arjuna fans, are saying that karna is a supporter of the caste,class system,which he opoosed before he was anga king.So he is an oppurtunist.This is nonsense.Karna said that madra people had no respect for brahmins,and this was rewuired for any people in aryavarta kingdoms.This doesnt mean supporting class.
Some prs,might be doing this deliberately,or they might not know facts.But this should stop.

The south version has been translated into other laguages.It has details of the conversation.
This is what shalya said to karna.
'Karna! why you are saying like that. Dont you know about yourself? Bhishma declared you as an useless Ardha Radha. I heard that the people of your Anga Kingdom are experts in women trafficking and flesh trade. You are the king of such kingdom. You first realise your fault and then point out others’ faults.'

So its obvious that shalya was abusing karna,anga people.



















Saturday, April 12, 2014

Drona didnt take any gurudakshina


 We know that Drona rejected ekalavya as his disciple.And ekalavya started practicing Archery in the presence of Drona's statue.And he became as good as an archer as Arjuna.And we know the rest of the story also.Its not true that drona demanded ekalavya's thumb as gurudakshina.Drona and kauravas went on a hunting expedition,and there Drona found ekalavya who could shoot four arrows into the mouth of a dog.
Upon observing Mahabharata verses,I logically came to the conculsion that Drona didnt demand any gurudakshina from ekalavya.Firstly Drona didnt teach ekalavya.So Drona can't demand any gift from him.
That would be an evil act and a person of Drona's integrity wouldnt do it.He will loose his astra vidya if he does something like this.And ekalavya did not know any divyastras.He might have equalled Arjuna in archery but without the divyastras or divine weapons he cant be superior to Arjuna.Drona knew this.
Though Arjuna did complain first, drona has told him that he didnt teach him.And Arjuna also knows ekalavya cant equal him in other aspects.And There are so many other things that one should learn apart from shooting arrows to become a great bow wielder.So the question of drona demanding anything from ekalavya doest arise.Ekalavya still can be defeated if he is attacked by many warriors,and krishna's army has killed him.














Monday, April 7, 2014

Yudhishtira's moral lapse



lets look at some facts.
Duryodhana poisions Bhima,and Bhima survives.Yudhishtira is too young to either forgive or take revenge.Also Bhishma must have given duryodhana some punishment.

In the dice game,it is yudhishtira who betted till the end and lost even draupadi.Its his addcition which should be blamed here.
 So is he as forgiving as many claim.He fought the war,and killed all enemies,and got the kingdiom.He doesnt hesitate to kill enemies if necessary.

When duryodhana gave his kingdom after shalya's death,Yudhishtira didnt accept it.He talked about all of duryodhana's acts before and said he will not leave him.He asked to fight with one of the pandavas,and take his weapon of his choice.If he is killed he will go to veera swarga or heaven.If he wins he will get kingdom.
So he didnt forgive duryodhana.And since he cant kill an enemy who is not fighting,he wants him to fight.He knew that duryodhana will choose bhima's opponent.Although Bhima couldnt kill him in righteous manner,he had to slash the thighs to kill him.If he had agreed to take kingdom from duryodhna,then upapandavas would have been alive.Ashwatthama wouldnt have killed them as duryodhana asked.
















Friday, April 4, 2014

Rules of war


 I am listing the rules of war in mahabharata times.
Most warriors fought from chariots.A warrior on chariot can fight with a warrior on elephant or a warrior on ground who is armed.
A warrior on chariot can kill a warrior on chariot who is unarmed if he doesn't turn back or flee or surrender.
Any number of warriors can attack a warrior on a chariot provided the warrior knows how many are attacking him.This could be 180 degrees.There is no such rule that only one warrior should attack another warrior.
A warrior should not be attacked from behind.
A warrior on chariot should not attack a warrior on ground who is unarmed.
A warior on ground can kill a warrior on ground who is unarmed who is defeated by him.This is how bhima killed Dushasana.
A warrior on chariot can attack a warior on ground who is armed.
Although elephants,horses were rare.These rules apply for those warriors also.
So we know that karna's killing is unrighteous.











Karna,Arjuna comparision


 Now lets compare karna with Arjuna as Archers,warriors.This is a topic that has been discussed by many.
Many people who believe that krishna is god say Arjuna is a better warrior.Some misconceptions like karna being defeated by drupada,bhima are cleared in this blog.And karna also didnt lose in the draupadi swayamvar.So what remains is karna's supposed loss to gandharvas, and virat war.Arjuna himself didnt win against the gandharvas,so that is cancelled out.And also the gandharvas,asuras could be later make Arjuna superior.So  only the virar war,mahabharat war remain.The importance of virat war is less.The kauravas came to mastya kingdom  and captured the cows so that Arjuna will come out of hiding,and they can identofy him.And the pandavas will again serve 12 years in exile and one year in disguise.But when duryodhana,and other kauravas arrived its already a six or seven days since the thirteethn year has passed.This Bhishma says to duryodhana.When the kauravas capture cows and wait,Arjuna comes,and Bhishma says its no use as thirteen years are alreasy passed.Now the war has no importance.But still duryodhana insists on fighting with Arjuna.And all the kaurava warriors attack Arjuna.And Arjuna defeates them.Although no kaurava warrior has the intention of killing Arjuna,the fighting continues.Arjuna,kkarna fight for soemtime and karna is wounded and flees.Then Arjuna defeats all kauravas by using the sammohana astra and making them asleep.And Arjuna tells uttara his charioteer,bring all the robes of kaurava warriors but dont go near Bhishma as he knows how to counter this weapon,This shows that Arjuna is intent on making a quick end to this,and neither he nor the kaurava warriors are interested in this.Now even Drona also faints.Which divyastra is there that drona cant counter.This whole virat war seems fake to me.
And when uttara brings the robes,Bhishma fires a few arrows,and Arjuna counters them and goes away.Within a minute all the others get up and want to attack again but Bhishma says its no use.So they stop.
This shows that Arjuna had an upperhand over karna on that day if we take this virat war as real.

Next coming to mahabharata war,karna fights for seven days and none could capture him or kill him in righteous way.He fights with satyaki,Drishtadyumna,panchala warriors and defeats them many times.
He successfulyl stops Arjuna from killing jayadratha before sunset,before jayadratha is killed by deciet,Karna,Arjuna fight for more than an hour that day.They meet in the war many times and karna counters Arjuna well.The decisive moment is on the seventeenth day.Arjuna goes to fight with the samsaptakas.I woder why arjuna didnt kill all samsaptakas by then if he is such a great warrior.kaurava army is without Bhishma,Drona and shalya on thta day as shalya is karna's charioteer.karna defeats bhima,satyaki,drishtadyumna and more than twenty panchala warriors and then defeats yudhishtira who is protected by them.If he captured yudhishtira,the war would have been over,If he killed him,the war is over.karna has won the war for the kauravas,duryodhana.This is the greatest acheivement by karna.Arjuna coudnt come as he is surrounded by samsaptakas.he then insults yudhishtira and makes him flee from the battlefiled.Thats because he wanted yudhishtira to win the war and he gave a word to kunti that he will spare four pandavas.Arjuna doesnt have a moment like this in mahabharata war.Even after Drona's death,when the kaurava army is wthout three imprortant warriors,he still could not get to duryodhana,and defeat him.He didnt have a moment like karna.And after yudhishtira flees,the pachalas attack him from all sides and karna uses Bhargavastra on them.And many panchalas get killed,flee away.Then Arjuna not able to withstand ,says its better to live,and Krishna says we should visit yudhishtira who is not on the battlefield.Its obvious that Arjuna has fled from the battlefield from karna.This is more important than karna fleeing from Arjuna in the virat war.
This shows that karna is a superior Archer,warrior than Arjuna.Both are great warriors,but in a mile,karna is ahead by two or three feet.















Thursday, April 3, 2014

Did Draupadi abuse Dharmaraja


 When yudhishtira or dhramraja lost all his kingdom,he betted and lost his brothers,and them he betted himself and lost.He then betted draupadi and lost.When duryodhana sends pratikamin to bring draupadi to the dice hall,draupadi asks 'ask that kitavam whether he lost himself first or me'and then she mentions about dharmaraja as king.Kitavam not only means a gambler but also dishonest person or rogue.There are other words for gamblers.So she might have abused him cleverly.