by following fake preachers

 In the last few months I used to have some debates with the admins of facebook page on 'star plus factually incorrect mahabharat'.The admins both men,one a maharashtrian,one from up settled in the us are hardcore chaitanya cult,madhwa cult followers and who think krishna is a god rather than vishnu.Krishna should be seen as an amsh of vishnu only.He is not an independent god.And they used star mahabharata to spread their version of mahabharata.They have written long posts on mahabharata before and now they write on characters.They view on karna is that he is evil,and they used to hype arjuna a lot.I used to counter them and tell them the true facts..But they used to abuse me saying that I am abuser of girls!.Their view is what is spread by the fake preachers of madhwa cult,chaitanya cult.This is derived from madhwa's commentary on Mahbharata.That is also a biased commentary as madhwa started a vashnava cult.They believed that karna was a jealous person,an evil person who was not that virtous.pandavas were greater than him in virtue and Arjuna was greater than him in archery.They are also heavily influenced by madhwa's commentary.They believe the fake preachers who say karna ordered disrobing,karna plotted to kill pandavas with duryodhana on the ghosha yatra.They make the biggest mistake when they think that karna didnt follow krihsna's instructions and before the mahabharat war and join the pandavas!.This shows their ignorance.I have written a post on Karna,Krishna conversation on this blog where karna comapres the war with a maha yagya,and says all the kauravas,bhisma drona and he will be killed.And he rejects the entire aryavarta kingdom and chose to fight as a warrior.This will be seen as a virtue by anyone.But the biased cult followers think karna did the wrong thing here.Here is a  fake preacher views on karna whom the admins believe.http://www.romapadaswami.com/node/2143
Infact these views seem to be borrowed from madhwa's commentary.This fake preacher is also fake and a self proclaimed preacher.This is the link.
http://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/btp33_romapada_swami.html
So when people believe some people without reasoning then they are the losers.They dont even know how ignorant they are.

Although I give the benefit to madhwa becasue he might not have said karna is evil.Its the later followers who said that.

vaishnavanam yatha Shambhu

 I heard the phrase vaishnavanam yatha shambhu which is in bhagavatha which is said by suka.Vaishnavites claimed that the following verse says shiva is the biggest devotee of shiva.
I was intrigued by this verse.How could suka say that which goes against the sruti and the puranas like shiva purana.The first interpretation was shambhu is rudra,so rudra can be the biggest devotee of shiva.That looked good,but I was not totally convinced.There is no isntance of rudra being devotee f shiva in puranas,although there are eleven rudras which aid vishnu in slaying demons.Shambhu is one of the rudras.But the verse is part of a larger poem nimagnanaam yatha ganga devanaam achyuto yatha vaishnavanaam yatha shambhu puranaam idam tatha kshetranaam chaiva sarvesaam yatha kashiryanutamaam tatha purana vratanaam srimad bhagavatam dvijah.
The chaitanya cult followers wrongly say nimnaganaam instead of nimagnanaam.Nimagnanaam means among the dippable rivers.So the verse means Among the dippable rivers like ganga,like achyuta among devas,like shambhu among vaishnavas,Among all the kshetras or places like kashi,
among puranas it is bhagavata.This is said by suka in varanasi.Since he talked about ganga,kashi he might have meant shambhu as shiva.Why would he say it,I thought.There are many websites which arer run by chaitanya cult followers claiming that shiva is greatest devotee of vishnu.I thought about this for sometime.Then yesterday it occured to me suddenly.Vaishnavanam doesn't mean among the devotees of vishnu.Vaishnavanaaam here means among the knowers of vishnu!vaishnava means who has the knowledge of vishnu.Who has the most gyaana of vishnu tattva.Vaishnavanaam yatha shambhu means among the knowledgeable ones of vishnu like shiva.Shiva has the full knowledge of vishnu,knows vishnu tattva.He is the nirguna brahman who knows about all.So suka is praising shiva here.Since it is bhagavata the emphasis here is on vishnu.Now some might say the verse devanaam achyuto yatha might mean that vishnu is superior.No,bhagavata lays emphasis on vishnu,but doesn't say vishnu is superior to shiva.It upholds the puranic position that  shiva is slightly superior,but its about vishnu.Here devanaam means among the devas.The devas here are Indra,varuna and others.The demi gods are referred here.Shiva is not refered here.So the verse says vishnu among demi gods and other gods.So vishnu is best among demi gods.Suka isnt contradicting anything here.
Without knowing the true meaning og the verse several websites are misinterpreting the verse vaishnnavanaam yatha shambhu.I hope they realise their mistake and stop this misinterpretation.

On Shiva Vishnu

 I am now starting the topic on shiva,vishnu.The two gods of hindu religion.The two aspects of brahman with different functions.But before I start anything on this,I should state something.
Yesterday,on dussera day,or vijaya dasami as its called I thought of reviving my shiva worship.Its been sometime that I worshipped shiva,so after doing it at night.I sat on a sofa for a few minutes.I relaxed for a while.Then I thought of vishnu,and his avatars,on karna arjuna.
Then I had a vision of vaikuntha doors opening as they show in films,tv serials,then some vision of ocean.
Then outside of the doors I saw a blue,green round light shining with rays.I knew instinctively knew it was vishnu,the saguna brahman.I recogonized the attributes that vushnu is identified with,particularly his name suvrata or someone with good vows.Vishnu is shining with attributes.
Then vishnu said 'I always said that Karna is a great warrior equal to Arjuna,and a great person.
Why do you worry about other people's views.You are a great devotee of shiva and your desires will be fulfilled.'I said vishnu,the saguna brahman and looked at him.I didn't bow to him.Shiva's devotees needn't bow to anyone.I also know that vaishnavas made derogative comments against shiva,
I looked at him with for sometime.Vishnu looked like what he was described.An honest deity who protects and preserves the world.And who knows the greatness of shiva.There was no ego while he spoke to me.Vishnu stayed for sometime.I realised that I had the darshan of Vishnu.Vishnu received the sudarshana chakra from Shiva.That destroyer aspect to protect the world.And his devotees claim that vishnu is superior to Shiva.Vishnu's devotees should learn from vishnu how to be honest.This was a divine experience for me.I had the shiva darshan before,now I had the vishnu darshan now.

Vishnu is the saguna brahman who is the protector,preserver of the world.Shiva is nirguna brahman with some saguna qualities who is the destroyer or transformer of the world,living beings.Vishnu doesnt have the nirguna tattva which is the real nature of brahman.Shiva has the nigruna tattva.
Worship of vishnu will only take a person to some level in spirituality.After that that person has to pursue nigruna brahman or become a devotee of shiva to get to the highest level.Shiva's worship is the direct path to get to nirguna brahman.Vishnu's worship is an indirect path.Vishnu cant take a person to the highest level.Shiva can do that.

On karna breaking the bow from behind again

 This is a follow up on the topic karna didnt break the bow from behind.Some mistranslators have said on internet,that paschat in the verse said that drona asked to attack from behind.

 Drona said

Kuru maheshwasa radheya tasyeva yadi sakyate
Arhtainam vimukhi kritva paschat praharanam kuru

Abhimanyu was using the divine armour given by Arjuna.It was taught to Arjuna by Drona.Drona recogonised the armour and said to karna 'you can break his bow, cut off the regins of horses,disburse his charioters,and then he said 'The great archer karna,if you can do this,then he will not be inclined to fight,and then(later) attack him.So paschat here means later or afterwards and not from back as said by some.karna broke the bow from the front.And I have written a detailed article on this before.

Karna is the first person to speak to protect draupadi

This might sound surprising.I was reading the sanskrit version of Mahabharata,and the arguments on whether draupadi was rightly won or not.After the disrobing which was added later,vidura speaks against it.Then vikarna gets up and says she has not been won.karna realised that the situation was getting out of control.Draupadi was brought to the court,and duryodhana who was insulted earlier would do anything.Vikarna will be dismissed anyway.So he got up first.And first he supported Duryodhana and said draupadi has been rightly won as a wife is man's property and he can bet her anyway.This is to avoid the impression that he was opposed to draupadi being brought to the hall.Then the  calls her a promiscious woman,to please duryodhana.And then accuses the pandavas of betting draupadi and lost.He also says about arjuna that he has no manhood or valour.This was sarcastic way of pointing out the mistakes done by them.And then says draupadi would not be a slave if she chooses another husband.he was actually pointing the way out for her to get out of slavery.if she stays as wife is pandavas,then she will be a slave.However according to dharmashahstras,if a woman chooses another husband then she would be freed from slavery.
So it is karna who first suggested draupadi how to get out of slavery.Then he says go to dhritarashtra's chambers and serve duryodhana and his brothers.He is now asking drauapdi to get away from the dice hall.This is a clever way of getting draupadi out of the dice hall.No one asked draupadi to get away.
But karna asked her to get away first.So karna is the first one to speak to protect draupadi in the dice hall.
Some people mistake karna's words as insult to draupadi,but when we look at the overall scenario,karna was right here.

Mission Accomplished

 Hi readers,my main mission of clearing misconceptions on karna is accomplished.I have written what I know by my logical reasoning.I hope people like this blog.I will be publishing more posts on Mahabharata.But they wont be frequent.I will post if there is anything new or interesting.From now on I will also add topics on spirituality also.

The chakravyuha - coming in and coming out

I will explain in this article on how to come in and out of chakravyuha,the warrio formation or vyuha in the kurukshetra war.

This is the vyuha.

The use of foot soldiers standing in the vyuha is mostly omitted.The Mahabharata war is mainly fought by warriors on chariots,and Maharathis or rathis or Archers.At some points elephants are also positioned.But there is some distance between a chariots.You could see the chakravyuha here.The right side 3 line arc is the entrance to the vyuha.
The Attacking army will attack the the three lines on the right side,by breaking those defenses.When the left side of the vyuha warriors tries to close in on the attack the approaching side and encircle them,the remaining side of the attacking army then engages with them.Some of them attack the right side warriors,some of them will attack the left side warriorsWhen the right side defenses are destroyed,the attacking army will then battle with the fourth line of the chakravyuha.When they are successfully defeated or stopped by the right side vyuha warriors,they can turn back and the left side fourth line can be defeated.if this is acheived the right side attackers and the left side attackers can simultaneoulsy attack the vyuha warriors on the right side fourth line.If they are successful in this,the entire chakravyuha can be breached.The attackers from behind will attack,but the attacking army from the left and right side can defeat them.So its about attacking the right side three lines first,and the left side three lines next.And after defeating the fourth line on the right,the arny will then turn the direction to the left side and come back and support the left side attackers.Then the warriors will attack the fifth line,and sixth line and defeat them,and get to the center.

This will depend on the capability of the attacking warriors,and their ability to defeat the defending vyuha warriors.While the chakravyuha gives the advnatage to the defending side,if the attacking army is good,then it can be breached and defending army can be defeated.The chakravyuha doesnt guarantee victory.If the defending side is good,then when the attacking army attacks the right side three lines,the left side defending army can attack and encircle them and defeat them.

Abhimanyu probably breached teh chakravyuha by defeating the first three lines of the chakravyuha.The pandava warriors followed him.Jayadratha was attacking from the three lines on the left side and encirlced the pandava warriors,and he stopepd them them from defending Abhimanyu.Abhimanyu attacked the fourth line,and was separated from pandava warriors.It was in that center fourth to sixth line the main warriors were positioned,and he fought with them,and was killed becasue he couldnt defeat those warriors who were superior to them.