The sudarshana chakra didnt exist

 The mahabharata mentions about sudarshana chakra of krishna,and how as he used on some occasions.
THe sudarshana chakra doesnt exist.Its a later addition to make make krishna god.The first instance is that of slaying shishupala where krishna uses sudarshana chakra.What happened was a battle between krishna and sishupala and after hours of fighting krishna managed to slay sishupala.Sishupala was not somebody who could be killed easily.There are some books written by some poets about the battle between krishna,sishupala.
Krishna,sishupala have enemity for a long time.Krishna's plans for yadava kingdoms were opposed by sishupala.Krishna adviced  the pandavas to conduct the Rajasuya Yaga,and subdue all kings,so it will eliminate his enemies.So that the yadavas will be safe and can prosper.He became the political advisor to the pandavas,and also adviced them on other matters.Sishupala didnt like this.So when the rajasuya yaga was started,he along with some kings had a plan to attack krishna and kill him.So he started abusing Krishna and challenged him to a fight.The other kings also supported him.Krishna,sishupala came outside and  mounted on a chariot and started fighting.Sishupala strikes krishna with many arrows,and so does krishna.
After some hours of fighting,krishna manages to slay sishupala.This battle is detailedly written by some poets in some books.Later on this was changed to Krishna killing sishupala with the sudarshana chakra.THis was done after Krishna was made god by pro pandava writers of mahabharata.
The second instance where krishna used the sudarshana chakra is when he attacked Bhishma in the mahabharata war,when Bhishma was causing widespread destruction,and Arjuna was not able to stop it.Although the mahabharata depicts that krishna used a chariot wheel instead of a chakra,but this is written in some other books.
The third time is when he uses the  sudarshan chakra to eclipse the sun,so that Jayadratha could come out and Arjuna could kill him.The original mahabharata says that krishna used maya instead of sudarshan chakra.
So its clear the the sudarshana chakra didnt exist,and it is later addition by people who waned to make krishna god.

Karna,Shalya conversation

 Some hindu right wingers in their articles,Arjuna fans, criticised karna as being opposed to women's liberation as because of a argument he had with shalya when he was the charioteer of karna on the seventeenth day of mahabharata war.Karna was killed unrighteously that day as shalya didnt raise the chariot from the earth.
The kmg version says that shalya says karna doesnt know a man's duties and karna abused the women of madra kingdom to whom shalya is king.Madra kingdom today is in Afghanistan,beside gandhara kingdom.
The kmg version doesn't give full details of that conversation.Shalya first abused anga kingdom women,and Karna abused back at madra kingdom women.Karna wasnt opposed to women's liberation or was he regressive in anyway.He just mocked shalya back.Shalya was requested by yudhishtira and krishna to weaken karna's resolve when he becomes he charioteer of karna.And so shalya kept on praising Arjuna,Abusing karna,anga kingdom people to divert karna's attention.There is a term called shalya sarathya in sanskrit.That means if someone talks discouragingly negatively on anyone doing anything it is called shalya sarathya.It was a deliberate plan by krishna.Shaly showed his loyalty to pandavas by not lifting karna's chariot from the earth.So karna had to come down to lift it.And he also didnt fight that well on eighteenth day and was killed by yudhishtira,there by making pandavas win the war.
if some people dont realise what karna was saying and take these things as they are then they will get confused.Karna,Shaklya conservation is not a representation of karna's opinions.
Also some conspiritors,Arjuna fans, are saying that karna is a supporter of the caste,class system,which he opoosed before he was anga king.So he is an oppurtunist.This is nonsense.Karna said that madra people had no respect for brahmins,and this was rewuired for any people in aryavarta kingdoms.This doesnt mean supporting class.
Some prs,might be doing this deliberately,or they might not know facts.But this should stop.

The south version has been translated into other laguages.It has details of the conversation.
This is what shalya said to karna.
'Karna! why you are saying like that. Dont you know about yourself? Bhishma declared you as an useless Ardha Radha. I heard that the people of your Anga Kingdom are experts in women trafficking and flesh trade. You are the king of such kingdom. You first realise your fault and then point out others’ faults.'

So its obvious that shalya was abusing karna,anga people.

Drona didnt take any gurudakshina

 We know that Drona rejected ekalavya as his disciple.And ekalavya started practicing Archery in the presence of Drona's statue.And he became as good as an archer as Arjuna.And we know the rest of the story also.Its not true that drona demanded ekalavya's thumb as gurudakshina.Drona and kauravas went on a hunting expedition,and there Drona found ekalavya who could shoot four arrows into the mouth of a dog.
Upon observing Mahabharata verses,I logically came to the conculsion that Drona didnt demand any gurudakshina from ekalavya.Firstly Drona didnt teach ekalavya.So Drona can't demand any gift from him.
That would be an evil act and a person of Drona's integrity wouldnt do it.He will loose his astra vidya if he does something like this.And ekalavya did not know any divyastras.He might have equalled Arjuna in archery but without the divyastras or divine weapons he cant be superior to Arjuna.Drona knew this.
Though Arjuna did complain first, drona has told him that he didnt teach him.And Arjuna also knows ekalavya cant equal him in other aspects.And There are so many other things that one should learn apart from shooting arrows to become a great bow wielder.So the question of drona demanding anything from ekalavya doest arise.Ekalavya still can be defeated if he is attacked by many warriors,and krishna's army has killed him.

Yudhishtira's moral lapse

lets look at some facts.
Duryodhana poisions Bhima,and Bhima survives.Yudhishtira is too young to either forgive or take revenge.Also Bhishma must have given duryodhana some punishment.

In the dice game,it is yudhishtira who betted till the end and lost even draupadi.Its his addcition which should be blamed here.
 So is he as forgiving as many claim.He fought the war,and killed all enemies,and got the kingdiom.He doesnt hesitate to kill enemies if necessary.

When duryodhana gave his kingdom after shalya's death,Yudhishtira didnt accept it.He talked about all of duryodhana's acts before and said he will not leave him.He asked to fight with one of the pandavas,and take his weapon of his choice.If he is killed he will go to veera swarga or heaven.If he wins he will get kingdom.
So he didnt forgive duryodhana.And since he cant kill an enemy who is not fighting,he wants him to fight.He knew that duryodhana will choose bhima's opponent.Although Bhima couldnt kill him in righteous manner,he had to slash the thighs to kill him.If he had agreed to take kingdom from duryodhna,then upapandavas would have been alive.Ashwatthama wouldnt have killed them as duryodhana asked.

Rules of war

 I am listing the rules of war in mahabharata times.
Most warriors fought from chariots.A warrior on chariot can fight with a warrior on elephant or a warrior on ground who is armed.
A warrior on chariot can kill a warrior on chariot who is unarmed if he doesn't turn back or flee or surrender.
Any number of warriors can attack a warrior on a chariot provided the warrior knows how many are attacking him.This could be 180 degrees.There is no such rule that only one warrior should attack another warrior.
A warrior should not be attacked from behind.
A warrior on chariot should not attack a warrior on ground who is unarmed.
A warior on ground can kill a warrior on ground who is unarmed who is defeated by him.This is how bhima killed Dushasana.
A warrior on chariot can attack a warior on ground who is armed.
Although elephants,horses were rare.These rules apply for those warriors also.
So we know that karna's killing is unrighteous.

Karna,Arjuna comparision

 Now lets compare karna with Arjuna as Archers,warriors.This is a topic that has been discussed by many.
Many people who believe that krishna is god say Arjuna is a better warrior.Some misconceptions like karna being defeated by drupada,bhima are cleared in this blog.And karna also didnt lose in the draupadi swayamvar.So what remains is karna's supposed loss to gandharvas, and virat war.Arjuna himself didnt win against the gandharvas,so that is cancelled out.And also the gandharvas,asuras could be later make Arjuna superior.So  only the virar war,mahabharat war remain.The importance of virat war is less.The kauravas came to mastya kingdom  and captured the cows so that Arjuna will come out of hiding,and they can identofy him.And the pandavas will again serve 12 years in exile and one year in disguise.But when duryodhana,and other kauravas arrived its already a six or seven days since the thirteethn year has passed.This Bhishma says to duryodhana.When the kauravas capture cows and wait,Arjuna comes,and Bhishma says its no use as thirteen years are alreasy passed.Now the war has no importance.But still duryodhana insists on fighting with Arjuna.And all the kaurava warriors attack Arjuna.And Arjuna defeates them.Although no kaurava warrior has the intention of killing Arjuna,the fighting continues.Arjuna,kkarna fight for soemtime and karna is wounded and flees.Then Arjuna defeats all kauravas by using the sammohana astra and making them asleep.And Arjuna tells uttara his charioteer,bring all the robes of kaurava warriors but dont go near Bhishma as he knows how to counter this weapon,This shows that Arjuna is intent on making a quick end to this,and neither he nor the kaurava warriors are interested in this.Now even Drona also faints.Which divyastra is there that drona cant counter.This whole virat war seems fake to me.
And when uttara brings the robes,Bhishma fires a few arrows,and Arjuna counters them and goes away.Within a minute all the others get up and want to attack again but Bhishma says its no use.So they stop.
This shows that Arjuna had an upperhand over karna on that day if we take this virat war as real.

Next coming to mahabharata war,karna fights for seven days and none could capture him or kill him in righteous way.He fights with satyaki,Drishtadyumna,panchala warriors and defeats them many times.
He successfulyl stops Arjuna from killing jayadratha before sunset,before jayadratha is killed by deciet,Karna,Arjuna fight for more than an hour that day.They meet in the war many times and karna counters Arjuna well.The decisive moment is on the seventeenth day.Arjuna goes to fight with the samsaptakas.I woder why arjuna didnt kill all samsaptakas by then if he is such a great warrior.kaurava army is without Bhishma,Drona and shalya on thta day as shalya is karna's charioteer.karna defeats bhima,satyaki,drishtadyumna and more than twenty panchala warriors and then defeats yudhishtira who is protected by them.If he captured yudhishtira,the war would have been over,If he killed him,the war is over.karna has won the war for the kauravas,duryodhana.This is the greatest acheivement by karna.Arjuna coudnt come as he is surrounded by samsaptakas.he then insults yudhishtira and makes him flee from the battlefiled.Thats because he wanted yudhishtira to win the war and he gave a word to kunti that he will spare four pandavas.Arjuna doesnt have a moment like this in mahabharata war.Even after Drona's death,when the kaurava army is wthout three imprortant warriors,he still could not get to duryodhana,and defeat him.He didnt have a moment like karna.And after yudhishtira flees,the pachalas attack him from all sides and karna uses Bhargavastra on them.And many panchalas get killed,flee away.Then Arjuna not able to withstand ,says its better to live,and Krishna says we should visit yudhishtira who is not on the battlefield.Its obvious that Arjuna has fled from the battlefield from karna.This is more important than karna fleeing from Arjuna in the virat war.
This shows that karna is a superior Archer,warrior than Arjuna.Both are great warriors,but in a mile,karna is ahead by two or three feet.

Did Draupadi abuse Dharmaraja

 When yudhishtira or dhramraja lost all his kingdom,he betted and lost his brothers,and them he betted himself and lost.He then betted draupadi and lost.When duryodhana sends pratikamin to bring draupadi to the dice hall,draupadi asks 'ask that kitavam whether he lost himself first or me'and then she mentions about dharmaraja as king.Kitavam not only means a gambler but also dishonest person or rogue.There are other words for gamblers.So she might have abused him cleverly.